# Free Challenges v. Subscription Challenges : How to Know?
**URL:** https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076
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**Created:** [October 29, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076 "2020-10-29T14:52:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@manningda](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/manningda)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/1 "2020-10-29T14:52:45Z")
I am likely to focus on the free challenges initally while I build confidence the subscription will be worth the expense.
In the meantime I’m finding it confusing which map challenges are free and which require a subscription.
Initially I thought “Red Flags” = Free, while “Blue Flags” = Subscription.
However in Kithgard Dungeon I’ve found a couple of “Blue Flags” that are not requiring a subscription (ex: Twisted Canyon).
Then I thought maybe the Blue.Flag+Key = Subscription, but that doesn’t seem to quite be a “business-rule” either.
Is there a way for a new player to “know quickly” which levels will require a subscription while they focus on the “base-levels” initially?
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### Author:  [@\_Codemaster](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/_Codemaster)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/2 "2020-10-29T15:01:33Z")
I think that the circle below flag tells you if free, or subscription-only. If it has a red bottom, or a purple bottom, it’s free. if it has a blue bottom, it has to be paid for.
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/3 "2020-10-29T15:32:40Z")
@_Codemaster I think you’re right
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### Author:  [@Lydia\_Song](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/Lydia_Song)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/4 "2020-10-29T15:45:21Z")
All I know is that the levels on the “main” paths are non-subscriber. But most (I think) of the levels not on the “main” path is subscriber only.
Lydia
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/5 "2020-10-29T15:55:28Z")
I disagree @Lydia_Song or else there would like ten levels in the dungeon
take a look
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### Author:  [@Lydia\_Song](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/Lydia_Song)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/6 "2020-10-29T16:35:23Z")
Dungeon is a special one.
Left of the blue line is non-subscriber.
Right is half-half of subscriber and non-subscriber.
I’m not entirely sure.
Lydia
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/7 "2020-10-29T16:57:12Z")
But look at this
kingthard apprentice and kingthard mastery are not there and they are behind the blue
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### Author:  [@Deadpool198](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/Deadpool198)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/8 "2020-10-29T17:04:15Z")
Personally I think @_Codemaster is right. I’ve always found purple and red based flags are free, blue are subscriber.
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/9 "2020-10-29T18:08:05Z")
I also agree with @_Codemaster it is reasonable
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### Author:  [@098765432123](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/098765432123)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/10 "2020-10-29T20:13:02Z")
as being a non subscriber i only see the ones on the path and not any blue flags at all all i see that are blue is fog that i cant unlock unless i became a subscriber.
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/11 "2020-10-29T20:14:03Z")
I am a subscriber so I don’t know what it is like to be a non-subscriber
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### Author:  [@098765432123](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/098765432123)
#### Post date: [October 29, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/12 "2020-10-29T20:15:43Z")
like i said i am a non subscriber so i can send a screenshot if nesicarry for more proof.
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### Author:  [@\_Codemaster](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/_Codemaster)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/13 "2020-10-30T11:43:14Z")
non sub levels:
subscriber levels:
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### Author:  [@manningda](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/manningda)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/14 "2020-10-30T14:32:00Z")
That was my original impression, but on Kithgard Dungeon the Twisted-Canyon level is “blue-base” but also “un-locked” to free-players. (…see images below…)
Do you think that’s a bug?
Right now my impression is that there are a few free “blue-base” levels in each map, but you have to click each on to determine which are available. Yes? No?
Kithgard Dungeon / Twisted Canyon 01:
Kithgard Dungeon / Twisted Canyon 02:
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/15 "2020-10-30T14:32:40Z")
hey the cover changed
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### Author:  [@\_Codemaster](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/_Codemaster)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/16 "2020-10-30T15:07:53Z")
it has a purple circle below the flag. purple is non sub.
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### Author:  [@milton.jinich](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/milton.jinich)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/17 "2020-10-30T15:09:13Z")
no the way pender is shown changed
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### Author:  [@\_Codemaster](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/_Codemaster)
#### Post date: [October 30, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/18 "2020-10-30T15:14:53Z")
BTW: in the desert, there is levels with red flags and purple bases. purple means that the level can be solved multiple ways, and is also available to free players.
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### Author:  [@Daniel\_Gronky](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/Daniel_Gronky)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/19 "2020-11-03T17:36:02Z")
this is what I have found about the banners of the levels:
red banner + red base:
- campaign levels
- both subscriber and non subscriber
- has a grey plate as a placeholder
red banner + red base + key:
- campaign levels that unlock new items
- both subscriber and non subscriber
- has a chest as a placeholder
red banner + red base + diamond on top + star on banner:
- campaign levels that allow you to pass the world
- include siege of stonehold, kithgard master
- has a huge pillar particle placeholder when locked
blue banner + blue base:
- optional reinforcement levels that are not required to complete the campaign
- some are subscriber levels, some are non subscriber levels
- has a small particle effect as a placeholder
blue banner + key on top + blue base + chest:
- reinforcement levels that unlock unique items, mostly subscriber levels
- has a small particle effect along with a chest
- levels include lost viking
red banner + purple base:
- hard challenge levels
- mostly subscriber levels
- include tiresome GCD and taunting
red banner + red base + mace on top of banner + yellow particles
- brawls or replayable levels
- mostly non subscriber levels
- include sarven and cloudrip siege, kithgard brawl
half red and half blue banner + red particles + skull on top of banner
- multiplayer levels
- non subscriber levels
- include multiplayer treasure grove, dueling grounds, zero sum, ace of coders
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### Author:  [@cheddarcheese](https://discourse.codecombat.com/u/cheddarcheese)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://discourse.codecombat.com/t/free-challenges-v-subscription-challenges-how-to-know/25076/20 "2020-11-04T01:50:19Z")
> [@Daniel\_Gronky](#):
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> include sarven and cloudrib siege, kithgard brawl
its cloud drip not cloudrib
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